I’ve Led Marketing Teams of 100 And I Still Get My Hands Dirty.

In a recent podcast I referred to "Forgetting the ivory tower CMO".

I meant it.

Long gone are the days when a marketing leader could be "hands off" - both day-to-day operationally and, more importantly, practically when it comes to the tools of the trade.

Early on in my career I saw marketing leaders becoming dinosaurs, disconnected from the “frontline”. Ever since I committed to staying ahead of the game, even setting up an (IRL) industry networking group.

In 2008, I was in the Marketo beta program. Not my team. Me. Personally testing every workflow, breaking things, learning what worked.

At Adobe, while managing a team 40+, I was still diving into campaign analytics. Not because I had to. Because I wanted to understand.

At VMware, I was hands-on with AI. Not just sponsoring my team to up-skill. Actually participating. Getting my hands on the tools. Failing fast. Learning faster.

The best CMOs I know can still:

  • Edit marketing content from the customer’s viewpoint

  • Spot a broken funnel in seconds

  • Jump on a customer call without prep

  • Prompt AI better than their team

  • Engage on social

If you think you’re too senior to get your hands dirty, you’re missing the point.

Leadership isn’t about distance - it’s about presence.

When teams are shrinking (I regularly hear of 6 marketers running $100M ARR), you can't lead from a spreadsheet. You need to know how the tools work. How the customer thinks. How the message lands.

In an era where AI handles the grunt work, being hands-on isn't about doing everything. It's about understanding everything.

𝗬𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝗮𝗺 𝗻𝗲𝗲𝗱𝘀 𝗮 𝗺𝗮𝗿𝗸𝗲𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗱𝗲𝗿 𝘄𝗵𝗼 𝗴𝗲𝘁𝘀 𝗶𝘁. 𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝗼𝗻𝗲 𝘄𝗵𝗼 𝘂𝘀𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗼 𝗴𝗲𝘁 𝗶𝘁.