Honoured to be the first guest to appear twice on "How to Grow a CMO" (if you missed Part 1 - the personal part - you missed my stories of electrocution and lunch-skipping ๐).
In Part 2, we talk more business. But here's what struck me during the conversation:
A year ago at VMware, we were "playing" with AI. Running hackathons. Experimenting behind firewalls. Nothing went live.
Today? CEOs are demanding: "How do we implement AI NOW?"
This shift isn't just about technology. It's reshaping everything:
๐ง๐ต๐ฒ ๐๐ฅ๐ข ๐ง๐ฟ๐ฎ๐ฝ. Half the companies I talk to have moved marketing under a CRO. Sounds strategic, right? Wrong. A proper cross-GTM CRO is a gift, but Iโm worried most CROs are just elevated salespeople. We're back to "Sales and marketing" (note the capital S, lowercase m).
๐ง๐ต๐ฒ ๐ง๐ฒ๐ฎ๐บ ๐๐ผ๐น๐น๐ฎ๐ฝ๐๐ฒ. One CEO told me his peer runs a $100M ARR business with 6 marketers. He has 40. "Why do I need 40?" he asked. The AI efficiency FOMO is real.
๐ง๐ต๐ฒ ๐๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ๐-๐ข๐ป ๐๐บ๐ฝ๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ฎ๐๐ถ๐๐ฒ. Forget the ivory tower CMO. If you're not personally using AI tools, diving into data, and rolling up sleeves on campaigns, you're done. Teams are smaller. Expectations are bigger. Senior leaders need to DO, not just direct.
My three non-negotiables for thriving:
๐ฆ๐๐ผ๐ฝ ๐๐ฎ๐๐ถ๐ป๐ด "๐ฏ๐ฟ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ". Three CEOs recently told me brand is either "stuff that doesn't work" or "mugs and T-shirts." We created this problem. Speak business language, not marketing speak.
๐๐ฒ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐ผ๐ป๐ฑ๐๐ฐ๐๐ผ๐ฟ. Marketing is too important to be left to marketing. Orchestrate across functions. Throw Gong transcripts into ChatGPT. Surface customer insights. Connect the dots others miss.
๐๐ฎ๐๐ฒ ๐ฎ ๐๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ฎ๐ฏ๐น๐ฒ ๐ฝ๐ผ๐ถ๐ป๐ ๐ผ๐ณ ๐๐ถ๐ฒ๐. This has guided me for 20 years. Leadership isn't about having answers. It's about having a perspective you can articulate and defend.
Anyway, all this and more in the pod! Listen to the full conversation (warning: I still sound like I'm on helium) here: https://okt.to/UGi163